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Posted by Yair j'adore chow piss on 2006-07-29 9:35:38pm

How many Nicoles are waiting in the final (other than the qualifying two)? :-)

  • I thought there were going to be ten Virginies! :) [R] - RogerF - 2006-07-29 9:37:29pm
    • Vestal - or not? [R] - juliejWHAMBAMBOOM!!!! - 2006-07-29 9:57:58pm
  • Check for yourself :) [R] - Harrow - 2006-07-29 10:00:51pm
    • oh and the draw is still moving when it finishes :) [R] - Harrow - 2006-07-29 10:07:20pm
      • Poor Nana!! - What a way to go! [R] - David in Hull - 2006-07-29 10:11:50pm
        • Don't worry, she can take the piss ... - Thomas pissadancing - 2006-07-29 10:13:05pm

          ... there was something you posted today that made her so proud! ;)

          • I did? [R] - David in Hull - 2006-07-29 10:24:43pm
            • Sure! [R] - Thomas still pissadancing - 2006-07-29 10:28:21pm
              • Hmmm! I think I am being a bit dense tonight! Still not sure, to what you refer Thomas [R] - David in Hull - 2006-07-29 10:35:03pm
                • You'll find out one day in the not so far future ;) [R] - Thomas still pissadancing - 2006-07-29 10:36:28pm
                  • OK- leave me in suspense - you little tease! [R] - David in Hull - 2006-07-29 10:46:12pm
  • And the moment has finally come: the ALC 2006 Grand Final - Harrow - 2006-07-29 11:01:57pm
    • ROFL .. some of the 'new' finalists are f*cking brilliant! :-)))) [R] - Ben NL - 2006-07-29 11:13:41pm
      • Only one is. 2 are OK....so all in all it's YAY semi qualifiers as far as I'm concerned :-))) [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-29 11:16:48pm
        • One very strong - 2 good ones - the rest won't get points from me in a strong final [R] - David in Hull - 2006-07-29 11:45:35pm
    • And fabulous job Harrow!!! Loved the shows and extensive use of Thomas. The eggtimer was fu**ing brilliant!! :-))) [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-29 11:28:39pm
      • thanks :) [R] - Harrow - 2006-07-29 11:30:49pm
        • Oktoberfest 2008! - Thomas still pissadancing - 2006-07-30 12:26:03am

          Don't get too drunk ... ;)

          • As I always say... there's no such thing as *too frunk* :) [R] - Harrow - 2006-07-30 12:27:25am
            • Hehe that typo has to stay! I meant drunk, obviously! :) [R] - Harrow - 2006-07-30 12:27:43am
      • Well done Harrow! For the time and hard work you have donated! [R] - David in Hull - 2006-07-29 11:49:45pm
    • Read them all and... - Yair - 2006-07-29 11:45:12pm

      I feel somewhere between [PL]TV's excitement and Jeremy's disappointment.

      There are quite a few great ones that will compete for my high points.

      But the winner will most likely come from the semis, and the Estonian Cowgirl almost definitely from the final. Just like last year.

      • Incidently this season's slogan at [PL]TV is: Exciment comes natural [R] - [PL]TV HoD - 2006-07-29 11:51:56pm
      • Not a big surprise ... see above ;) - Thomas still pissadancing - 2006-07-30 12:27:31am

        It's a strong final - the overall level is better than last year's, but certainly not due to the straight finalists.

        Some of the new stuff is astonishingly uninspired ...

      • I totally agree [R] - Pete D - 2006-07-30 9:35:18am

Hmpf!! I'm a bit annoyed!
Posted by [PL]TV HoD on 2006-07-29 11:08:46pm

That I can't voice neither my dissappointment, nor my joy.

So that leaves me only to congratulate the qualifiers and those in particular who got high points from me!

And I hope that the writers of my top 10 who didn't qualify will make and entry next year!

Hugz to all, congrats to each! :-)

I think there's nothing wrong with voicing your disappointment? - Ben NL - 2006-07-29 11:20:35pm

those songs are out after all? I was pretty happy with the results, I only miss 'Ugly girl' and especially 'Je t'adore' (by coincidence two nearly lyricless songs) in the final :-)

Hi guys. Just looked at the ALC entries for the first time and the winner will be...
Posted by Bostonian on 2006-07-30 12:16:09am

He's the Host. Good luck everyone. Laterz..

  • In what category? :-) [R] - [PL]TV HoD - 2006-07-30 12:17:36am
    • LOL bad boy! - Yair - 2006-07-30 12:20:32am

      Remember Alp predicted Chernobyl last year, and nobody believed him!

  • I hope not ;-) lol. (sorry) [R] - Jonas - 2006-07-30 3:13:05am

Well, I (kinda) caught up with you all.
Posted by Frank on 2006-07-30 12:27:02am

First of all, fun shows, Harrow, great job, loved the little green ball and the Guildo slider :)

As for the qualifiers:
Quite happy with semi 1, though I'm missing some of my favs (don't know if I'm allowed to say which ones).

Very surprised by semi 2 though, the majority I didn't vote for and I'm missing quite some very clever and very well-written ones.

Semi 3 mainly delivered what I expected and hoped, but for one, which surprises me (again).

I only quickly browsed through the final ones. There's some gems and some others, as every year, but it's too early (or too late) to say :)

  • Of course you are allowed ... anyone else already mourned about their lost loves. - Thomas let me dry, let me dry!!! - 2006-07-30 12:30:27am

    And I repeat it over and over again: "Let Me Dry" and "Je T'Adore" were robbed!!! :(((((

    Almost entirely happy with the rest of the qualifiers, though - they certainly outshine most of the straight finalists.

    • Oh, in that case - Frank - 2006-07-30 12:41:53am

      Some of my missing favs were (in no particular order) the not flawless but very inspired Brain, the extremely clever Di Di Da (probably the one that was hardest to do too) and the sweet and cheeky Pissadansen among a couple of others that may not have been rofl rofl but very well done nonetheless.

      I see that there's lots of talk on Je t'adore. I liked that one very much, it was funny and oh so clever, but also oh so short:)

      • ... well, let's wait for revelation night then ;) [R] - Thomas ... let me dry!!! - 2006-07-30 1:03:18am
  • Me too, I just got home :) - Jortsu - 2006-07-30 12:55:43am

    Very pleased because my two favourites from Semi 1 and Semi 3 made it.
    *Very* shocked about the results of Semi 2.
    I'm especially missing "Mmm... Brain" and "I Sue" among the qualifiers :(

    And well done Harrow, fantastic shows :)

    • Hey Jordi! You ready for some mail? :) [R] - Harrow - 2006-07-30 12:59:09am
      • From you? Always :) [R] - Jortsu - 2006-07-30 1:00:04am
        • sent :) [R] - Harrow - 2006-07-30 1:27:38am
          • Got it :) - Jortsu - 2006-07-30 1:42:56am

            ;-)

    • You never fail to surprise me, my friend ... - Thomas ... let me dry!!! - 2006-07-30 1:08:04am

      ... I can't believe there is actually someone who likes both "Mmm ... Brain" and "I Sue"!

      Both did reasonably well, though, qualifying was a tough thing to do this year!

      • You are sometimes wrong :) - Frank - 2006-07-30 1:11:26am

        I didn't mention it, but I sue is one I quite enjoyed too :)

        • I am rarely right ... - Thomas ... let me dry!!! - 2006-07-30 1:19:16am

          ... two of my three favourites which are "out" I expected to be from you.

          And if you had written "Let Me Dry", it would have been obvious you enjoyed "I Sue" - these two are twins separated at birth, children of Hysteria and Obsession.

          • All will be revealed in a week's time :)) [R] - Frank - 2006-07-30 1:22:23am
            • Yes ... but if I was right, expect a major protest march to blow up the board that night! [R] - Thomas ... let me dry!!! - 2006-07-30 1:26:12am
              • ROFL! [R] - Frank - 2006-07-30 1:43:24am
      • LOL! ;) - Jortsu - 2006-07-30 1:11:35am

        Yep, we tend to disagree when it comes to MB contests (except the MB BB2) ;))
        But I agree with you about the appeal of the "Culinary" stuff, I much preferred "Let me dry" ;)
        Hope you were lucky and qualified, though :)

I'm not in the final...buaaaaa
Posted by Kenny on 2006-07-30 12:51:49am

(Sigh) Dear all, I entered the funny ALContest and I scored really bad...my song was in semi1 and have to admit that the qualifiers really surprised me in semi1...didn't expect to see those...well maybe Culinary and Hertz, which are brilliant. Semi2 and Semi3 results are expected and now I still have to check out the final ones, but my vote doesn't count now, does it? (sigh)

  • If you entered your vote counts, no matter if you qualified or not. [R] - Yair - 2006-07-30 12:56:26am
    • hmm...is it gonna be sumed with the rest non-qualifiers, or my points will directly be added to the scoreboard? [R] - Kenny - 2006-07-30 12:59:54am
      • you get to give 12, 10, 8-1 points out yourself :) [R] - Harrow - 2006-07-30 1:00:55am
  • But semi 1 got the most obvious result ... - Thomas ... let me dry!!! - 2006-07-30 1:06:08am

    ... all the potential winners have made it. And one day someone will have to explain to me what's so brilliant about this "Culinary" stuff. This MB must be somewhat obsessed with fridges! My favourite object in the household is the washing machine, maybe that's the problem.

    • LOL! I don't get its greatness either :-) [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-30 1:07:50am
    • hehe, I dunno, it was just fondues that blew me off...!:) But I expected Hard Cock, Sex in the Van, nogayimpos.&torero [R] - Kenny - 2006-07-30 1:09:10am
      • Do you realise how this message looks to someone who doesn't know ALC and browses the MB? ;-) [R] - Yair - 2006-07-30 1:12:36am
        • It may shock some that do know ALC too :) [R] - Frank - 2006-07-30 1:13:38am
          • LOL!! Good night :) [R] - Yair - 2006-07-30 1:14:57am
        • LOL yeah, someone would think I'm a cock lover who like to have sex in the van while eating fondues! [R] - Kenny - 2006-07-30 1:15:52am
          • and that would be wrong, right? :) [R] - ade - 2006-07-30 9:02:42am
            • duuuh! I just liked the themes of the ALs ;) altough I have nothing against sex in vehicles [R] - Kenny - 2006-07-31 12:25:45am
      • "Sex In A Van" was a hoot and very catchy, but the porn stuff did not really do that well this year ... - Thomas ... let me dry!!! - 2006-07-30 1:15:15am

        ... I do feel somewhat sorry for "No Gay Impossible", though. It's such a fab parody of one of the most ridiculous aspects of gay self-glorification.

        "Hard Cock" would have qualified in any other semi (but without a chance to score in the final, it's a solid entry, but not as funny as it pretends to be ;), "Van" had a great chorus, but relied too much on rudeness in other parts and "Torero" was too perverted to collect mainstream votes, I suppose ;)

    • If anyone submits "Clothes In Dryer" (DEN 83) next year, it won't be me. [R] - Iznibz - 2006-07-30 1:13:08am
      • OMG ... I would have killed for that idea! [R] - Thomas ... let me dry!!! - 2006-07-30 1:13:46am
    • Nah, I don't get the culinary thing either - it seems almost too easy to list foodstuffs [R] - Pete D - 2006-07-30 9:34:36am
      • One of the most clever foodtheme songs was treated badly though! [R] - Frank - 2006-07-30 1:07:54pm

OK, without giving anything away here...
Posted by Richard_CT on 2006-07-30 1:25:29am

... I did better this year than last year!

But oddly, the entry that I spent an hour on got more points than the one that took me a week!

  • Without giving anything away here ... - Thomas ... let me dry!!! - 2006-07-30 1:28:20am

    ... the entry I spent 30 minutes on and hardly changed during the following weeks did better than the ones that I constantly tried to improve!

    And yes, I did better than last year ... it could have hardly been worse, though.

    • Weird, isn't it? [R] - Richard_CT - 2006-07-30 1:29:44am
      • Not sure ... - Thomas ... let me dry!!! - 2006-07-30 1:31:38am

        ... what comes easy might be more inspired!

    • The entry I spent weeks on, did get through :-) [R] - Jonas - 2006-07-30 3:21:23am
  • Same here. The one I spent the most time on didn't even come close to qualifying :-( [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-30 1:47:59am
  • Yeah, me too! I spent *HOURS* lovingly fitting my less-successful one to the melody. [R] - Pete D - 2006-07-30 9:33:35am

And before I am out going downtown again, a big round of applause for our ...
Posted by Thomas pissadancing on 2006-07-30 1:36:55am

... Harrow, Harrow!

Well done again, I really appreciate it.

And isn't it nice to watch such a charming little ditty about you reaching the final?

  • Yes it was!! :) - Harrow - 2006-07-30 1:37:55am

    That was one of the few I was cheering for that made it through :)

    • and thankyou! Go get pissed and have a great time! :) [R] - Harrow - 2006-07-30 1:38:28am
  • Clap, clap, clap! :) [R] - Frank - 2006-07-30 1:42:26am
  • Love the guy, not so the AL :-) [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-30 1:43:11am
    • Oh, it's cute ... - Thomas ... let me dry!!! - 2006-07-30 1:45:27am

      ... almost too cute for the brat he can be ;)

      • What makes you think that a brat wrote it? ;) [R] - Harrow - 2006-07-30 1:46:30am
        • I don't think he meant the writer when he said brat, brat :)) [R] - Frank - 2006-07-30 1:59:53am

Blääääh... "Bla Bla".....should've won the whole thing :-)
Posted by Jonas on 2006-07-30 3:08:21am

Sorry to whoever wrote it :)

Paranoia
Posted by LoboinMadrid on 2006-07-30 4:10:08am

WOW!

  • Indeed...:)))) [R] - javi - 2006-07-30 5:49:19am
  • I don't suffer from it :) [R] - Frank - 2006-07-30 6:00:53am

"Inches", one or two syllables?
Posted by Alexander-NL on 2006-07-30 10:37:43am

After the Chernobyl debacle I figure it's better to just ask in case I'm wrong about something. :o)

  • two [R] - ade - 2006-07-30 10:39:35am
    • Thanks. :o) [R] - Alexander-NL - 2006-07-30 10:39:55am
  • ...and how is Sophie Carle roughly pronounced? :o) [R] - Timoteus - 2006-07-30 10:45:31am
    • So-fee-Carl. :o) [R] - Alexander-NL - 2006-07-30 10:58:38am
      • OK. :o) [R] - Timoteus - 2006-07-30 11:00:45am
    • So, fee Karl [R] - Jonas - 2006-07-30 11:02:42am

Just caught up with the new ALC songs and there is an absolute classic in there .......
Posted by juliejWHAMBAMBOOM!!!! on 2006-07-30 12:25:16pm

... am I allowed to say which one?

  • Well it seems others have mentioned it too so I am joining in!!! [R] - juliejWHAMBAMBOOM!!!! - 2006-07-30 12:27:00pm
    • Sure you can, it's not like you can be evicted for discussing it or anything ;-) [R] - TomofLondon - 2006-07-30 12:27:46pm
      • It's not as if we have to agree either :) - Frank - 2006-07-30 12:54:29pm

        I most certainly don't :)

        • If it's the one I think it is, me neither! - Sild - 2006-07-30 12:59:13pm

          But I am surprised how mainstream my opinion on "Je t'adore" turned out to be, it was one of my big faves in semi 2, but I never imagined it would come close to quailifying! Maybe my opinions aren't as different as I've suspected, after all!

          • I'm not sure - Frank - 2006-07-30 1:03:14pm

            I seem to be "in trend" with some, but on the other hand some of my bigger favs did very bad.

  • The weird thing is that I find it almost impossible to spot the finalists ... - Thomas ... let me dry!!! - 2006-07-30 12:49:23pm

    ... I've got some suspects, sure, but some semi songs are so much more "them" than the final ones.

    • It seems to me many tried to maximise the number of their entries in the final... - Timoteus - 2006-07-30 12:56:26pm

      ...by not placing their best text there automatically. The automatic finalists are IMO no better than they were last year even though now you needed to have a good result (and not just a participation) the previous year to get one.

      • Yes, looks like it. [R] - Frank - 2006-07-30 12:59:22pm
      • If you are an automatic qualifier, that's the way to go though, surely???? [R] - juliejWHAMBAMBOOM!!!! - 2006-07-30 1:33:58pm
        • If you want to be Estonian Cowgirl, yes :) [R] - Harrow - 2006-07-30 1:39:32pm
          • LOL! :) [R] - Timoteus - 2006-07-30 3:02:54pm
      • Definitely ... I admire them for taking the risk, though [R] - Thomas ... let me dry!!! - 2006-07-30 1:35:00pm
    • But we don't know for sure who the ten direct finalists are - RogerF - 2006-07-30 1:01:28pm

      Did Carly & Rich write an entry together, or have they got separate entries? Did all 10 enter songs? If one or more declined we could have some unexpected direct finalists, with Jeremy as first reserve.

      Having said that, I agree, given that the 10 are who they should be, it is very hard to match entry with finalist!

Interesting.... of the semi qualifiers,
Posted by Richard_CT on 2006-07-30 1:24:03pm

only six were songs from this year, and all were Angel-Chiara's!

Ooops... make that 7! [R] - Richard_CT - 2006-07-30 1:28:20pm

What? Zombie song did not make it to ALC final :(((((

  • I know, sad.... [R] - carly hungers for brains - 2006-07-30 1:43:44pm
    • And Pissadansen is out too.... :(((( [R] - suomigirl - 2006-07-30 1:46:47pm
      • The tragedy of "Pissadansen" is that there is a below par version of the same song in the final now ... :( [R] - Thomas ... let me dry!!! - 2006-07-30 1:54:29pm
        • I noticed. Blasphemy. [R] - suomigirl - 2006-07-30 1:57:34pm
        • LOL. How rude! ;-) [R] - Jonas - 2006-07-30 2:07:09pm
          • ... but obvious! ;) [R] - Thomas ... let me dry!!! - 2006-07-30 2:10:01pm
  • Yeah :-((( [R] - Jonas - 2006-07-30 1:48:03pm

There is something i still don´t get in the ALC finalists.
Posted by LoboinMadrid on 2006-07-30 1:47:44pm

Is it supposed that the best skilled ALCers of 2005 (Yair, Fulingen, Rich, Jonas, Carly, Frank, Aviad, Timoteus, Nigel and Roger) wrote some of the worse 2006 entries?
In my opinion there are two great entries in that group, but the rest...

  • I know, I'm quite puzzled as well [R] - Alexander-NL - 2006-07-30 1:48:57pm
  • It's quite strange, indeed ... but as mentioned before, it is likely their best entries qualified through the semis... [R] - Thomas ... let me dry!!! - 2006-07-30 1:53:30pm
  • we all have our good days and bad days, Lobo. and, as was mentioned before.. - carly hungers for brains - 2006-07-30 1:54:09pm

    sometimes the strategy was to send the 'better' song to the semis.

    who knows how many of the semi entries that got through are *also* written by the direct qualifiers?

    • My point is: - LoboinMadrid - 2006-07-30 1:56:12pm

      If you have proven to be one of the best competitors in 2005, why entering an (obviously) worse entry in 2006? I think it wasn´t compulsory to enter 3 songs, right? Never heard of reputation?
      :-)

    • Oh, I'm sure the final is loaded with last year's top tenners! [R] - Thomas ... let me dry!!! - 2006-07-30 1:58:57pm
  • Weell...maybe we dind't send our best ones straight to the final :-) [R] - Jonas - 2006-07-30 1:55:59pm
    • Whay sending a bad one for starters? [R] - LoboinMadrid - 2006-07-30 1:56:34pm
      • For practice. :-P And because there's no way of knowing what works and what doesn't in the end. - Timoteus - 2006-07-30 2:49:50pm

        Personally, I only had one good entry last year and even that was one of those rewarded for the idea rather than rewarded for the witty style of writing. It's very possible I don't have a single good entry this time. After all, if I happen to lack an idea... %-)

        And reputation? What reputation? We have a reputation? %-O

        • Some of us, yes [R] - LoboinMadrid - 2006-07-30 2:55:28pm
          • Including moi, to which I may not have lived up *sorry* ;o))) [R] - Alexander-NL - 2006-07-30 3:00:03pm
            • Yay! :-) [R] - LoboinMadrid - 2006-07-30 3:04:45pm
    • That'd be a seriously stupid move. lol - Alexander-NL - 2006-07-30 2:00:10pm

      Especially for you, as you saw the advantage "Smoke?" got by being a new fab entry. Direct final entries can pile up at the bottom yes, but to do that they have to be worse than stuff in the semi. And by entering exactly that you *will* pile up in the bottom of the final, something people will remember more than if you have one less entry in the final and one that ended halfway in a semi. That's just my view. :o)

      And yes, I do think that some of those who qualified are direct finalists. :o) Because they're genius and very hard to beat when at their best. :o)

  • I think there's at least 4 that are worthy of the final, myself :) [R] - Harrow - 2006-07-30 1:56:19pm
    • I spotted two, but then again I'm quite happy to be able to shower my semi favourites with points now. [R] - Thomas ... let me dry!!! - 2006-07-30 2:12:21pm
  • Maybe last year was a fluke :-) - RogerF - 2006-07-30 1:59:47pm

    but remember I came 18th, so that isn't really a guarantee of greatness anyway :-)

    • and the son only came 8th in it's semi :) [R] - Harrow - 2006-07-30 2:04:18pm

"Harrow knows why it's even more typical."
Posted by Jonas on 2006-07-30 1:55:06pm

And I think now we know that one of the entries that came 7th, was yours? ;-)

  • 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th... whatever. :o)) [R] - Alexander-NL - 2006-07-30 1:55:52pm
    • LOL Alex, soon we know which one of us did worse ;))) [R] - suomigirl - 2006-07-30 1:57:02pm
      • 8th ... "Promotour" ;) [R] - Thomas ... let me dry!!! - 2006-07-30 1:58:08pm
        • oh, yeah, that' gotta be it ;-) [R] - Jonas - 2006-07-30 1:58:35pm
          • Alexander will be pleased with the result, though, once the authors have been revealed ;) [R] - Thomas ... let me dry!!! - 2006-07-30 2:00:23pm
            • OK, so now we know that you had an entry that placed lower than "promotour" in that semi? ;-) [R] - Jonas - 2006-07-30 2:01:06pm
              • Do you really think he hates me that much? :( [R] - Thomas ... let me dry!!! - 2006-07-30 2:03:42pm
                • LOL, who knows? ;-) [R] - Jonas - 2006-07-30 2:05:53pm
                • lol!!! *No comment* ;o))) [R] - Alexander-NL - 2006-07-30 2:06:25pm
        • Suuure... ;o)) [R] - Alexander-NL - 2006-07-30 2:01:55pm

And now that Jeremy isn´t around...
Posted by LoboinMadrid on 2006-07-30 2:13:51pm

I don´t know how his real entries went in the voting, but i´m sure that "Leavin'" and "Superbra" would have been easily in the final.

  • Definatly Superbra [R] - Jonas - 2006-07-30 2:21:27pm
The authors of at least 2 ALC finalists are so obvious to me.....LOL, it's as if they're saying to me in person :-) - Jeremy - 2006-07-30 4:09:25pm
  • Only one is obvious to me. :-P [R] - Timoteus - 2006-07-30 4:37:56pm
    • Your own? :-) [R] - Jonas - 2006-07-30 4:52:04pm
      • Yes. :-) [R] - Timoteus - 2006-07-30 5:09:55pm
  • I don't think any is obvious, but I have my guesses for all of them ;-) - Jonas - 2006-07-30 4:50:42pm

    And I don't understand why people have been complaining about the finalists either... I think there's one really brilliant in there (and no, it's not the one that's been talked a lot here) and I suspect it's the entry of last year's winner ;) Then there's another 4-5 that are really good too and would have deserved to go to the final from a semi-final...

    • The quality isn't all that bad indeed but people had higher expectations for obvious reasons. [R] - Timoteus - 2006-07-30 5:11:04pm
    • I have to say some are already growing on me ... [R] - Thomas ... let me dry!!! - 2006-07-30 5:17:44pm
      • Indeed, it's not really fair to judge them all until they are as familiar as the semi entries imo :) [R] - Harrow - 2006-07-30 5:27:32pm
        • I've already pretty much decided my votes!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [R] - juliejWHAMBAMBOOM!!!! - 2006-07-30 5:28:59pm
          • You're fast! My 12 is decided, but - Yair - 2006-07-30 5:33:38pm

            5 entries are fighting for my 10
            3 entries are fighting for my 4
            and 4 entries (all I gave 8/10!) are fighting for my 1 point.

            This means three songs of 8/10 will not get points from me at all!

            • I go on initial reactions and there are some semi songs I know I don't need to bother with again [R] - juliejWHAMBAMBOOM!!!! - 2006-07-30 5:36:02pm
          • 2 sets of votes already received - you're not alone! :) [R] - Harrow - 2006-07-30 5:44:16pm
            • Oooh so I got the silver? :o)) [R] - Alexander-NL - 2006-07-30 6:37:53pm
        • I haven't even listened and sung to them yet ... that's the decisive factor anyway. [R] - Thomas ... let me dry!!! - 2006-07-30 5:40:19pm
  • Have you spotted mine Jer?! You're not going to deprive me of your 12 this time are you?! LOLOL :-))) [R] - Luke - 2006-07-30 8:25:08pm
    • I actually thought that one of my 12's in the semis was your song. Didn't qualify tho :-( [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-30 8:29:02pm
      • ROFL!!! You were my only hope of a 12.... - Luke - 2006-07-30 8:36:38pm

        ...and yet I made it anyway - couldn't have been more surprised - from comments here about what people were voting for I'd totally written myself off! Sorry Harrow, I should have kept my mouth shut but it's my birthday and I'm sloshed! LOLOL :-)))

OK, finally got around to reading all the entries...
Posted by carly in lund on 2006-07-30 7:12:10pm

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I think, average-wise, the direct-to-final entries as a group are considerably better than any of the semis. I mean, if you compare the final entries just to the ones that got through the semis, that's not really fair. You're only getting the cream of the crop there. If you compare just the new 10 to any of the 3 semis, though, I think it comes out on top on average. At least, in any case the worst songs aren't nearly as bad as the worst songs in the semis.

  • I totally agree - the competition is really tough but I thought the finalist certainly have done their entries very well [R] - [PL]TV HoD - 2006-07-30 7:15:26pm
  • Average wise they're comparable to what I've seen in the midtable semi entries. The semi qualifiers for the most part - Jeremy - 2006-07-30 7:20:56pm

    are far superior imo

    Maybe with another few reads some of 'em will grow on me, but for now that's how I see it

    • i think there's some confussion here - rich - 2006-07-30 8:02:11pm

      People voted for the top 18 songs last year, not for the top 10 people. It stands to reason that the 18 (semi qualifying) songs that people so adore now are better than the 10 direct finalists.

      For the best songs to emerge as direct finalists you need to send the best song WRITERS (not the most popular, voted-for songs!) as direct finalists. The only way to do that is to reward individuals for consistently well written songs, which you cannot do because you do not accrue points from each year's contest. Thus, you are selecting the direct qualifiers on the basis of one event--and a sample size of 1 is unreliable :)

      For all those who fear not intellectual conversation, the proof is in "the law of large numbers," to the extent that each song's success in the preceding year is an independent, chance-based event.

      • Even the best song WRITERS as you put it can send total stinkers...as we'll no doubt see next wknd :-) [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-30 8:12:22pm
        • yes, that's my point [R] - rich - 2006-07-30 8:13:32pm
      • ? [R] - javi - 2006-07-30 9:29:54pm
  • I agree - and if you compare to this year's ESC - Yair - 2006-07-30 7:44:50pm

    where only three direct finalists took their precious final spot seriously (two of which ended in the top 10 consequently), us ten aren't doing so badly.

    Starting in the final is a privilege but also a risk, with a certain cow-related title possible, surely most of us took it into account :)

    • I still believe that the finalists' finest will be among the semi qualifiers ... - Thomas ... let me dry!!! - 2006-07-30 7:54:18pm

      ... and the overall quality of this year's final is miles ahead of last year's.

      There is, however, nothing to rival my personal 05 top 3, just a lot more songs competing for my points.

      And my potential "douze" didn't qualify ... ;)

      Didn't quite get your comment about the cow-related title - high risk, indeed, but definitely fishing!

      • I'm saying that the chance of ending last in the final is something we knew about, for the better and for the worse! [R] - Yair - 2006-07-30 8:46:33pm
    • I don't think comparing the direct entries in the ALC Final to esc is fair... - javi - 2006-07-31 6:02:15am

      ESC is much worse...:)))

      My humble opinion is that the level of the semi entries is higher than that of the direct finalists; that said, I'm almost sure ( although I won't bet my farm, mainly coz I don't have one) that the winner will be one direct finalist, with one semi qualifier close behind.

  • My only thought is if I was an automatic finalist, I would put my best entry directly into the final - David in Hull - 2006-07-30 8:11:10pm

    For the reasons:

    It doesn't fill the final up with 3rd choice songs.

    My 2nd and 3rd choice songs should be good enough to compete with everyone elses finest - and not protected by automatic qualification.

    I run the risk of losing my best entry in a strong semi!

    • my strategy - rich - 2006-07-30 8:19:18pm

      was to put a song in the final that would not require too many listens to grow on people and, in fact, might get worse with more listens. (Dunno if I succeeded)

      Conversely, I put a song that would need more listens to "get" in the semi. My other semi song was one that I thought would climb into the fan favorite spot over the long term. (Dunno if I succeeded)

      So my decisions were not based on which was the "weaker"

      • But you don't know how people vote, do you? - javi - 2006-07-31 5:56:06am

        Maybe some voters are looking for instant appeal and the entries that might need more time for them to "get" them may lose votes after all...just a thought.

        In any case, I don't intend to understand your posts, you always lose me!!! I might as well answer them with ??? coz I understand nothing of them most of the time, sorry. ( not your fault, don't worry...)

        • Javi, don't worry, sometimes I don't understand him either, and we're married ;-) [R] - carly hungers for brains - 2006-07-31 3:41:38pm

back from the beach, all roasted and just saw the results for ALC semis. WOWZA!! LMAO!!!!!
Posted by euroUSA hearts KYLIE on 2006-07-30 8:48:16pm

soooo unique. LMAO :-) congratulations to all qualifiers. when do votes have to be in?

Tadaa! I've sent my ALC votes!
Posted by Sild on 2006-07-31 10:00:34am

I'm sticking with my statement that semi 2 is the best one, 4 of the 6 entries from it gets points from moi, although the douze goes to a semi 1 entry. And I agree with what people have posted earlier about the direct qualifiers, one single point goes in that direction!

All in all, it has been veeery enjoyable, there's been quite a few that I'll probably never gaze at again, but at least six of the qualifiers (and a few non-qualifiers, especially "Je t'adore"!) are really impressive, and I read and sing (when alone, I hasten to add!) them over and over again! :o)

  • Well done! :) Haven't gotten around to reading yet... But I'm surprised to see so many of my favs not qualifying! :/ [R] - Elin - 2006-07-31 10:05:17am
    • Same happened to me too, many of my biggest faves missed final :( [R] - suomigirl - 2006-07-31 11:13:27am
      • Think positively: that makes voting in the final easier. :) [R] - Timoteus - 2006-07-31 12:17:15pm
        • LOL yes, less songs fighting for my highest points :) [R] - suomigirl - 2006-07-31 12:18:29pm
  • You're not supposed to reveal your votes, you know ... - Frank - 2006-07-31 12:19:37pm

    Anyway, I'll have a hard time voting as quite a lot of my favs got stuck in the semis. Luckily I don't agree with what you say about the direct finalists. There is some clever stuff in there too.

  • hmmm, you could as well have posted your entire votes... [R] - javi - 2006-07-31 1:42:27pm

ALC......some very surprising results and one or two that should have so made it.....
Posted by Niall@work! on 2006-07-31 12:38:26pm

I mean if Everything (The Culinary Remix) (aka crap) can make a final then "One Point" (much better) should have......


quite a few ones I like in there and 2 of my absolute faves still in there and I have yet to look at the finalists ......

  • LOL, that crap you refer to got very high marks from me in the semi!!!!! [R] - julie@work - 2006-07-31 12:39:55pm
  • One Point didn't impress me at all [R] - suomigirl - 2006-07-31 12:41:05pm
  • Hmm, you don't think that the fact that - Frank - 2006-07-31 12:46:02pm

    Everything fitted and One Point didn't may have had something to do with the one qualifying and the other not?
    It's still a lyric contest, not a funniest joke contest.

    • Which is a possible spin-off, just like JESC! :-) [R] - [PL]TV HoD - 2006-07-31 12:50:04pm
    • Everything had a funnier joke too, in fact. - Timoteus - 2006-07-31 12:54:58pm

      There is a genre that doesn't follow your rule though: gay texts. They do surprisingly well regardless of whether they are singable. If they aren't, they are higher midtable; if they are, they qualify. I simply couldn't fail to notice all texts the chances of which I significantly underestimated had something in common. :-o

    • One Point may not have fitted exactly - and that's where it lost marks from me but it was VERY good :) [R] - Niall@work! - 2006-07-31 1:45:15pm
      • That's a contradiction in terms. :) - Frank - 2006-07-31 1:57:07pm

        How can a lyric that's not singable be very good?

        • I thought it was funny ...though there are funnier texts that do stick to the tune :) [R] - Niall@work! - 2006-07-31 5:39:20pm

Maybe one final remark before I'll toss my votes in...
Posted by [PL]TV HoD on 2006-07-31 1:03:31pm

I think also with the lyrics of the finalists, that they make it seem very easy - while the entries they have chosen are actually quite hard to write AL's for.

Which makes me enjoy them even more!
So r.e.s.p.e.c.t. to you guys!

Completed my ALC civic duties :-)))) - Jeremy - 2006-07-31 3:17:49pm

ALC woes
Posted by Yair @work on 2006-07-31 3:21:32pm

Despite some semis favourites not making it to the final, and a relatively low number of wonderful direct finalists, I'm still having the problems I feared from.

Five songs that got 10/10 in my chart are competing for my 5-10 points (my 12 was a choice of heart, it's beyond 10/10). I'll have to spend the next few days trying to find minor defects in these 5 songs in order to decide which song gets what. The difference between 5 and 10 points is huge! Shame I'm not a julie and can decide my votes on the fly...

That said, it's still better of a problem than not having enough gems to vote for, so I shouldn't be complaining. :)

  • "Minor defects"? Why not just go where your heart leads you? ;) [R] - Thomas inconsequent code talker - 2006-07-31 4:06:41pm
    • That can be the same place :) [R] - Frank - 2006-07-31 4:20:14pm
    • Because the heart can't choose, they're all too good! [R] - Yair - 2006-07-31 5:07:07pm
  • I still don't see why evverybody seems to think the direct finalists were disappointing - Ben NL - 2006-07-31 4:53:48pm

    I LMAO'd myself at at least half of them! ... it's true that there are some qualifiers at the same or perhaps higher level that got through, but all in all the level of this final is so much higher than any of the semis! :-) Yep, I did vote too, too bad my vote doesn't count seperately .. but still .. :-)

    • You know how to fix that :) [R] - Harrow - 2006-07-31 4:58:06pm
      • fix what? putting up my most handsome smile doesn't work with you ;-) [R] - Ben NL - 2006-07-31 5:00:21pm
        • enter next year to be able to give 58 points out :) [R] - Harrow - 2006-07-31 5:06:34pm
    • ditto.. there are many direct finalists that are better than the worst of the qualifiers [R] - rich - 2006-07-31 7:19:36pm

So, Jonas, you thought i wrote "Mr. A"?
Posted by LoboinMadrid on 2006-07-31 4:17:42pm

hugs

  • lol, it was just a guess ;-) - Jonas - 2006-07-31 4:22:59pm

    Mostly I just picked names almost out of the blue just for the sake of guessing, to spice up Harrow's collection of Mb comments that would be published with highlighted words later on to see how right or wrong we've been.

    I don't think there was anything particular in the style of writing in that song that reminded me of you, I just picked your name because I know you're not too fond of trolls and weird people on this board ;)

    Anyhow, I still think that even though the subject of those lyrics were a bit out of place perhaps, the lyrics were well-written and deserved more than it got.

    • I gave it _% of its overall points :-) [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-31 4:24:51pm
    • i think what i wrote deserved more than what it got. i feel like Gunvor. thinking of suicide. - euroUSA hearts KYLIE - 2006-07-31 4:28:35pm

      ;-)

      • I'm sure that see-through dress would be an interesting experience on you :-) [R] - Jonas - 2006-07-31 4:30:33pm
        • you would faint ;-) [R] - euroUSA hearts KYLIE - 2006-07-31 4:32:29pm
        • Hey...if Thomas can pull it off and look oh so sexy... ;-) [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-31 4:33:58pm
          • I just read an article in DETAILS magazine that full flesh is coming back ... [R] - Thomas ... let me dry!!! - 2006-07-31 4:34:50pm
            • LOL :-)) [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-31 4:50:54pm
      • I think my song deserved less than what it got. And I'm not generally one to undervalue my own work.... [R] - carly hungers for brains - 2006-07-31 5:03:25pm
        • LOL....pity you didn't submit the brill bicycle blog as an AL..woulda drowned in douzes :-)) [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-31 5:04:56pm
          • Ahh, but see, much easier to write when one is not constrained by...you know...an original text ;-) [R] - carly hungers for brains - 2006-07-31 5:07:11pm

Good God Almighty ...
Posted by Thomas No Sex! No Sports! on 2006-07-31 6:57:48pm

... I guess the genius did it again in the ALC final!

I think you're just Paranoid ;-) [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-31 6:59:30pm
  • ALC!! now HOW are we supposed to decide the best here!! I have at least 4 I want to give 12 to!! Help! - Niall@work! - 2006-07-31 9:45:32pm
    • Follow your heart? ;) [R] - Jortsu - 2006-07-31 9:50:38pm
      • I have...... although my top 4 are genius :) and one had me crying with laughter and - Niall@work! - 2006-07-31 9:56:32pm

        atill managed to not get 12!

        :o(

        I wanna give 4 twelves!

        • Well, a bit of the same here :) - Jortsu - 2006-07-31 10:05:51pm

          I love my top 6 ;)
          One is brilliant, one has great lyrics, one is charming, one is funny, one had me ROFLing, one was a grower I learned to love...
          You can't give 12 points to all of them, unfair, I know, but after singing them again I got them in the right position.
          I'm not participating so this won't influence the final result so much, thankfully ;)

          • Any song which will end up in the upper half of the final deserves a lot of respect this year ... - Thomas ... let me dry!!! - 2006-07-31 10:11:40pm

            ... and I love each and every song in my top ten, even the potential one pointer.

            There are 3 1/2 definite masterpieces in there, however ... then again, noone should complain about 8 points in such a competitive environment!

            • Indeed :) [R] - Jortsu - 2006-07-31 10:15:17pm
            • I think any song that finishes in the upper half of the semis deserves a lot of respect too :) [R] - Harrow - 2006-07-31 10:29:20pm
              • What about us in the lower parts? [R] - Jemini - 2006-07-31 10:52:36pm
                • you deserve a bit of respect ;) [R] - Harrow - 2006-07-31 10:53:07pm

So? Do you think Estonian Cowgirl-revenge has succeeded?
Posted by Alexander-NL on 2006-08-01 11:24:18am

Do you think I made the ALC Final? :o)

I know, a very self-centered question, but whatev. :P

  • LOL, I hope so. But to be honest I have no clue what you might have written :) [R] - suomigirl - 2006-08-01 11:26:14am
    • I find it difficult as well - Alexander-NL - 2006-08-01 11:41:00am

      I think I may have some Franks and Yairs, maybe a Jonas, but overall I'm quite clueless, just like last year really. :P

  • Yes!! :) - Elin - 2006-08-01 11:34:07am

    Not that I have any ideas of what you might have written, but still, I believe in you!! ;)

    • That's sweet, thanks! :o) [R] - Alexander-NL - 2006-08-01 11:41:08am
  • No ;-) - Jonas - 2006-08-01 5:25:26pm

    And that is based on your previous comments this week, hehe

 

After much hard work, my votes are decided. So in true julie-style...
Posted by Yair on 2006-08-01 8:27:48pm

Go my favourite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


(and a few other great ones)



All in all this is the best final in any lyrics contest ever, and to answer Alexander - no, I don't think there'll be a runaway winner. I marked 6 songs as winner-potential, but then I could still be wrong (I was way off last year..). I do believe the winner will come from the semis though, and that is not to say where my 12 goes to.

One song will actually get more points than it did in the semi. That is because I had time to grasp its hit potential and how well it can do as an independent lyric.

And Harrow - be patient, I need to write the comments that will be posted here after my votes are out, before I send my votes :)

ALC automatic finalists DO deserve to be there - quality :) - Josef - 2006-08-02 9:42:58am
  • Just quite recently sent votes for ALC final...how many of you have already sent as well? :) - Josef - 2006-08-02 10:36:03am
    • Still working on my comments! [R] - Yair @work - 2006-08-02 11:35:54am
    • I have! :o) [R] - Alexander-NL - 2006-08-02 12:14:13pm

Right, that's my ALC duties done...
Posted by Nick D. on 2006-08-03 8:35:51pm

...well done finalists, there are points on my voting sheet for all 3 semifinals and for the prequalifiers. And that's as much as you'll get out of me before the big reveal! ;-)

  • Oh, I just did my duties too... - RogerF - 2006-08-03 8:42:07pm

    And my top ten was *very* evenly spread between all the semis and the direct finalists.

    • Ah, thank you Harrow, you're fast... - BobboRotterdam - 2006-08-03 9:00:49pm

      and the deadline to send my votes???
      August 6 at what time?

      • 13:00 (CET) [R] - Harrow - 2006-08-03 9:02:57pm
      • Ah, ok. I will hurry (didn't follow the semi's, so all is new...). Will be nightwork ....:) [R] - BobboRotterdam - 2006-08-03 9:04:32pm
  • ...unless you win and have to write a reprise, that is ;-) [R] - Yair - 2006-08-03 8:55:34pm
    • we don't only have 1 reprise, if we keep up the EC tradition :) [R] - Harrow - 2006-08-03 8:59:42pm
      • What? Do I have to write one again?? :P [R] - Alexander-NL - 2006-08-03 9:07:27pm
        • Depends whether you are crowned EC or not :) [R] - Harrow - 2006-08-03 9:15:11pm
          • Owww... *that* tradition! :P [R] - Alexander-NL - 2006-08-03 9:19:44pm
          • Does that mean Alexander *is* in the final, then? ;))) [R] - Jortsu - 2006-08-03 9:40:17pm
            • I consider all ALC messages before I post them to ensure they mean nothing :) [R] - Harrow - 2006-08-03 9:46:34pm
              • :P [R] - Jortsu - 2006-08-03 9:51:44pm
  • I'm doing my duty at them moment as well, and..... - BobboRotterdam - 2006-08-03 8:55:47pm

    after 8 lyrics, I'm really excited about one of them. This author must be very talented! Let's see afterwards if he is who I think he is....
    But now the most important thing: where do I have to send my votes to? I can't find it on the website (probably blind, I know...). Please mail me where to send it to and is the 6th of august the last day I can send my votes, and if so til what time??
    Thanks!

    • alc2k6 (at) gmail.com [R] - Harrow - 2006-08-03 8:58:54pm

It has been nightwork, but finished my ALC task now.....
Posted by BobboRotterdam on 2006-08-04 12:40:16am

After HOURS of reading, singing, testing(do the alternative lyrics fit in the melody?, etc..), judging and comparing, I've made it!
My points have been given and sent to Mr.Harrow. Thanks guys and girls, you have given me a lot of fun within a few hours time. I've been laughing out loud by moments, especially with song 19 and 20(Am I allowed to say this, I have only little influence on the total scores as non-participant and laughing doesn't automatically mean high scores for the lyrics concerned...:))) Good luck to all the finalists.

So I sent my ALC votes last night - but unfortunately I had several others, worthy of votes, that came unrewarded...
Posted by [PL]TV HoD on 2006-08-04 9:31:05am

But the process went fairly quickly, yet thorough. :-)

  • Yes, I recognize this..... - Bobborotterdam - 2006-08-04 11:01:01am

    especially at the bottom of my list (places 8-15) it was full of doubts and considerations which lyrics would be just in or just out of my top 10. Finally, some set up criteria combined with ad hoc intuition decided about the list.

Phew! Finally voted in the ALC...
Posted by Jonas on 2006-08-04 1:29:01pm

There were two songs worthy my 12, but in the end one of themh ad to get 10 instead (obviously!). Then I couödn't decide which one was good enough for my 8, but eventually found a good alternative :) The rest was easy.

That's my ALC votes sent - good luck to everyone! :-) - Luke - 2006-08-05 12:34:17pm

To the poor soul who wrote "Everything" (The Culinary Mix) ...
Posted by Thomas ... let me dry! on 2006-08-05 11:06:37pm

... as a finalist, you certainly could not care less, but after singing your tune tonight I feel sorry for everything I said about your entry on this board.

Good luck! ;)

All will be revealed later today... - The Author - 2006-08-06 2:18:54am

... and thank you!

 

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