Semi 2
- Semi 2 Draw up: there is a bit of sound... - Harrow - 2006-07-15 10:00:06pm
- LMAO@the tearing and yelling!!! Interesting titles :-) [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-15 10:05:04pm
- Super excited about a Generacija 42 AL! Yayyy! [R] - anon - 2006-07-15 10:06:05pm
- Ahh, still another hour to wait for the songs... *sigh* [R] - carly in lund - 2006-07-15 10:07:05pm
- Any resemblance between Alla and existing Lobo's is purely coincidental!! :) [R] - Frank - 2006-07-15 10:11:12pm
Are we gonna do wild guesses?
Posted by Geert on 2006-07-15 10:20:27pm
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Promotour is written by Frank and is an ALC on Kate Ryan!
:)
- ALC Semi 2 now up :) - Harrow - 2006-07-15 10:59:21pm
- Yay! Finally! :o)) [R] - Alexander-NL - 2006-07-15 11:00:09pm
- Okay, bye for now :) [R] - Frank - 2006-07-15 11:00:14pm
- :(((((((((((((((((((((((((( [R] - SpLiT - 2006-07-15 11:06:11pm
Now about ALC, why isn't "Je t'adore" Belgium 2006 on the angel - chiara list?
Posted by Fulingen on 2006-07-15 11:35:26pm
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What I can see, there are two entries based on that "song"...
nr 17, Pasema, in semi 1, and
nr 16, I'm a whore in semi 2?
- Harrow didn't update the duplicate songs that arrived later. That page was only for warning purposes. [R] - Yair - 2006-07-15 11:37:51pm
- Ok, sorry, didn't know that! =) [R] - Fulingen - 2006-07-15 11:39:03pm
- Yep, indeed. Cos I wouldn't have been able to update til after the deadline had passed so it was completely pointless [R] - Harrow - 2006-07-15 11:41:36pm
- Let's face it, she wasn't an angel, or a Chiara, so :) [R] - Frank - 2006-07-15 11:43:46pm
- LOL! But she sure felt like there were too many of her sometimes! >=) [R] - Fulingen - 2006-07-15 11:46:22pm
I think semi 1 was better, personally :)
- I agree with you, semi one had better entries overall, I only like two entries in semi 2, vs 6 in semi 1. [R] - Fulingen - 2006-07-15 11:44:50pm
- Really Really Gay is Really Really Good :-) [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-16 12:15:57am
Sometime an entry comes by with a song I've never heard before and I just love it when I'm hooked on the first read
Posted by Jeremy on 2006-07-15 11:56:35pm
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due to clever lyrics and perfect match of word and rhythm.
Bravo to whoever wrote Generacija 1642.
It's not funny as in haha's, but so well written. Kudos! :-)
well, well, virus of MBoarders losing internet connections is spreading. my DSL at home is caput, they won't repair till
Posted by euroUSA on 2006-07-16 12:26:57am
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tuesday, sitting in coffee shop that provides wireless, reading ALCs. 1st one i read was Stickler...sorry dude, no points, it doesn't match anything...sorry.
- I think it's cute :-) [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-16 12:30:53am
- The fact that Alex sits in a coffeeshop to read ALs? :) [R] - Frank - 2006-07-16 12:37:08am
- LOL! That too, yes :-) [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-16 12:43:45am
- LOLOL@Llama....how brave! :-) [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-16 12:31:08am
- "Invite your ex" fits ;-) [R] - Yair - 2006-07-16 12:32:40am
- Quite a few others fit too...I think our boy is upset someone massacred his pet :-))) [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-16 12:34:34am
- I didn't say they're not, but this is the strongest line IMO :)) [R] - Yair - 2006-07-16 12:36:11am
- actually, i sang along and had very little trouble with most of it ;-) [R] - carly in lund - 2006-07-16 12:33:54am
- here I come to your aid, darling!...I agree absolutely that it fits [R] - rich - 2006-07-16 1:08:41am
- Brokeback Twist - LMAO, it is very cliche, but very, very funny. - euroUSA - 2006-07-16 12:47:58am
- Love the lyrics! Pity, though, that it's barely sing-alongable :-/ [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-16 12:53:20am
The rest will be hard, but my 12 is an easy decision
Posted by Yair on 2006-07-16 12:56:42am
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And just like in the first semi, it's not the kind of song I ever thought I'd give 12 to.
- The rest will be hard, but my 12 is an easy decision - Yair - 2006-07-16 12:56:42am
- Hmmm, I find it rather hard this time - Frank - 2006-07-16 1:36:58am
The number of non fitting ones is higher, which is a blessing in disguise, as it narrows it down. But also annoying as some had good ideas.
Decisions, decisions :))
- My thoughts to a tee...some of the best ones have severe matching problems. To douze or not to douze :-) [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-16 1:38:29am
- After the first reading I don't have a favourite yet. I'll sing them all tomorrow :) [R] - Jortsu - 2006-07-16 1:59:36am
- *wants the mp3s* ;-) [R] - Yair - 2006-07-16 2:01:27am
- ;-) [R] - Jortsu - 2006-07-16 2:02:48am
it is very hard to concetrate on ALC while they are playing
Posted by euroUSA on 2006-07-16 1:18:46am
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Donna's and Barbara's "on the radio" . HEEEEEELP!!!
- Donna's and Barbara's ? Aah, that kind of coffeeshop? :) [R] - Frank - 2006-07-16 1:30:47am
- McCaul and Dex? [R] - Yair - 2006-07-16 1:38:18am
- Impossible. The coffeeshop is still open! [R] - Frank - 2006-07-16 1:39:40am
- Promotour is so sweet...mentioning all (or most of)our cities. Gotta reward it :-))) [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-16 1:40:05am
- I'm A Whore is so juvenile, shouldn't be here really, shame. [R] - euroUSA - 2006-07-16 1:53:39am
- I don't like it much either, to be honest... [R] - Jortsu - 2006-07-16 1:57:43am
- It's disgusting, but I'm afriad it made me laugh :-) [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-16 2:03:05am
- It's cheap and tacky but there are one or two in there that are faaaab! [R] - Niall@work! - 2006-07-17 5:49:18pm
- ROFL, LMAO, LOL, @ Llama!!! BRAVO!!!! [R] - euroUSA - 2006-07-16 2:00:40am
- It's not my douze, but I have no doubt it'll sail thru [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-16 2:04:37am
Congrats to I'm no stickler - the writer made something very respectable imo!
Posted by [PL] supporting AX-NL!!!! on 2006-07-16 2:13:19am
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It's the first one I read - Sorry Harrow, I'm doing my own draw here :-))
Sense A Two: Do we need a password to be able to read the ACTUAL lyrics?? - [PL] supporting AX-NL!!!! - 2006-07-16 2:19:28am
ALC Semi 2 ...
Posted by Thomas No Sex! No Sports! on 2006-07-16 12:23:50pm
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... no comment, otherwise Sild will strangle me with his tie - and deservedly so ;)
- Imo Semi 1 was much better...I could actually see a song from Semi1 wining the whole thing. [R] - orionas - 2006-07-16 12:30:58pm
- Absolutely! [R] - Thomas ... No Sex! No Sports! - 2006-07-16 12:31:41pm
- Yeah same here, the overall level was much higher in semi 1 and I agree with Orio!!!! :))) [R] - javi - 2006-07-16 12:33:30pm
- Semi 2 is miles better. - Jelena - 2006-07-16 12:37:12pm
Some dogs , of course and childish and insultive entries too, but overall , much better.
Healthy sense of humour prevails in Semi 2, and Semi 1 was horrible.
- OT: Who´s the laziest here?
Posted by LoboinMadrid on 2006-07-16 3:25:22pm
- Whoever wrote Je T'adore (the ALC version) :-)) - Jeremy - 2006-07-16 3:40:50pm
- That's what i'm reading now...i can't say though that the original writer of the song was less lazy! [R] - orionas - 2006-07-16 3:42:48pm
- I think they'll share the result, though [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-16 3:43:53pm
- Lobo wrote it, then? :-) [R] - Yair - 2006-07-16 4:52:22pm
Thanks! A quixk whizz through has unveiled an absolute bloody corker!!!!!!
Posted by juliejWHAMBAMBOOM!!!! on 2006-07-16 4:15:01pm
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I wish I was that clever!!!!!!
I reckon our douzes are going the same place again ;) [R] - Yair - 2006-07-16 4:51:41pm
"Brokeback Twist"
Posted by LoboinMadrid on 2006-07-16 4:29:13pm
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Why oh why..!!!
:-(
It could have been...!
:-(((
- it is full of cliches, but it is funny..me likes. [R] - euroUSA - 2006-07-16 4:30:16pm
- it has some fantastic lines, but it's got some frustrating aspects as well... [R] - carly in lund - 2006-07-16 4:30:54pm
- Yes, that´s what i mean [R] - LoboinMadrid - 2006-07-16 4:32:42pm
- I agree... - Joanna - 2006-07-16 4:33:48pm
but still, it's really not the worst entry in semi 2.
I'm having trouble matching more than one AL with the music in this semi, I don't like that. Maybe it's just me though, but when it comes to one entry in particular I think it's impossible to get the AL to fit the music :(
- Oh sure, *now* you like a cowboy themed story! - Alexander-NL - 2006-07-16 4:44:54pm
Pft! :P
- Yours was a cowGIRL themed story :)) [R] - Frank - 2006-07-16 4:52:36pm
- But it fit the melody!! :P Well, most of it. :P [R] - Alexander-NL - 2006-07-16 4:53:15pm
- and as such targeted wrong audience :-)) [R] - euroUSA - 2006-07-16 4:53:40pm
- lol I do think I elaborated on how sexy the cowboy was though! :P [R] - Alexander-NL - 2006-07-16 4:58:13pm
- LOL!!!! [R] - [PL] supporting AX-NL!!! still!! - 2006-07-16 5:54:56pm
- Read the last two lines of Brokeback Twist :)) [R] - Yair - 2006-07-16 4:55:41pm
- Great lyrics, very poor match with the music. Pity [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-16 4:59:45pm
- You just have to go R&B singing it and it works ... most of the time! [R] - Thomas ... No Sex! No Sports! - 2006-07-16 8:10:35pm
There is a cheap song in semi 2 which will get a lot of points from me, by the way ...
Posted by Thomas ... No Sex! No Sports! on 2006-07-16 8:56:45pm
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... who knows! ;)
- LOL! They're all pretty cheap in semi 2 methinks! :-) [R] - Luke - but you can call me Vlad - 2006-07-16 9:00:24pm
- Are you talking about the one people have been sort of bashing? [R] - orionas - 2006-07-16 9:03:15pm
- No ... but one of the songs people have been bashing is the one masterpiece in semi 2 ;) [R] - Thomas ... No Sex! No Sports! - 2006-07-16 9:10:41pm
- You kind of lost me there...but still all we'll be revealed in 2 weeks or so! [R] - orionas - 2006-07-16 9:12:34pm
my votes
Posted by rich on 2006-07-16 10:13:42pm
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...are being sent to Harrow soon. But I thought I'd share some semi 2 opinions I have. Maybe let Harrow have his fun trying to figure out which comment goes with which vote.
Of the songs that will receive votes from me:
* One is a perfect fit... except for one line. In a semi of many poor fits, it is worth noting that there are some exceptions. However, lack of difficulty lowers the point score.
* One was supposed to be funny, I guess, but it turned out to be more "enjoyable" than funny. Which is still a good thing. And of the many name dropping song, this is the one of the few whose droppings weren't brown and stinky.
* One took on an incredibly difficult song, and far surpassed every other song in the past 2 semis in the amount of quality per unit of difficulty. Difficulty aside, it wasn't the best fitting. On the other hand, the misfit was hardly noticeable, what with being distracted by sustained fits of laughter. Fit of laughter vs. fit to the original... hmmmmm.
* One was a good match with excellent rhyming. Only compromised by a bland topic and a couple of lines that were real stinkers. Of course, there were a few lines that were the complete opposite--definitely point-earning material.
* One mostly fits, but its lack of substance and inability to deliver the haha's belied its potential. Such a good title, too :(
* One got a points added for effort and a few deducted for the careless use of a rhyming dictionary and thesaurus.
* One was Effin brilliant! It is currently my pick to take it all, despite the lukewarm response to the semi so far. Credit needs to be given where credit is due. Someone with a good ear must have really spent their time getting a feel for this difficult song... and then they nailed it. Not only witty and clever, but executed with great technical merit. One odd thing I noticed is that some lines are easier to read than to sing along to ;) ... not sure that's a good thing. But I managed to avoid some of the uncomfortable misfits by not trying to sing along. It worked. Besides, I far prefer the ALC over the original song! Well done and good luck to whoever wrote it!
* The others getting points squeeked through, but not necessarily on merit. They were mostly harmless point-getters by default.
...finally, it ain't over till you get a few scathing comments. Here are random comments that I made as I listened to songs not commented on above.
"Doesn't really fit... and an off-putting topic. Not the worst."
"This is funny. Too bad ALC requires you to match those funny little lyrics to the original song. A poor waste of hillarious lyrics and a fun idea… alas, further doomed by the driving rhythm of the vocals in the original. Could have pulled this off with a meandering, shapeless ballad, I'm sure. Best to just make up your own tune for this one, as it's one of the poorest matching in the entire contest."
"One line fits. Well done. Now what about the rest?"
"I am confused. In the category of coherence, this takes second only to Ulysses. If you read the words backwards and mix the lines up randomly, it seems to make a bit more sense."
"No" / "Blah" / "Meh"
"I guess I need some help with this one. So I'll wait for the help to arrive and won't give it any points for now."
"I'm sure whoever wrote it thought it was funny. I hate to burst their bubble. Thank goodness for anonymity and shifty deidentified comments."
"Can't you be disqualified for having a 12 year old write your ALC entry for you?"
"Even *I* listened to the song while reading the entry--you'd think the author would have as well."
"So uninspired that it fails to inspire a scathing comment."
- Ooh! *reads carefully* [R] - Yair - 2006-07-16 10:27:35pm
- Good read...I think I can guess 2 or 3 of the entries the positive comments apply to [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-16 11:16:12pm
ALC Semi 2...
Posted by Richard_CT on 2006-07-17 2:15:08am
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Well, my "failsafe" scoring system failed badly this time. I got a six-way tie for first place. That said, none of these songs would even have scored 5 points in Semi 1.
Disappointing.
ALC semi 2 - it get's better after a second and third reading, when I skip the horrible ones...
Posted by Fulingen on 2006-07-17 11:32:10am
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After my first reading, I had 2 entries I liked, and only 5 i could vote for.
After the second reading, I liked 4 and had 8 to vote for.
Finally after a third reading, I found the last two who will receive my two lowest points.
IMHO the great entries in semi 2 are still a bit lower than the great ones in semi 1. But there is one entry here which I think could surprise a lot of people and end up in the final top three, unless we have some really brilliant entries left.
Oh, and to the author of "Total Plagiat", one perfect rhyme for ranking is spanking, which is what I would like to give to the authors of two other entries. Which other entries? That shall for now remain a mystery...
- The highs and lows seems more extreme in this semi to me - Sild - 2006-07-17 11:38:15am
While the first one was filled with lots of ok-ish entries and few that stood out, but in this one there are more that really stands out - in both directions. Besides, the themes seem more varied in this one to me, so I had a more enjoyable time reading semi 2.
- For me, the ones that stand out the most in semi 2 do so for being awful, not for being great, like in semi 1. [R] - Fulingen - 2006-07-17 11:52:21am
- The author of "Total Plagiat" hadn't obviously read Yair's tips. Rhymezone would have given that and 12 other rhymes. [R] - Timoteus - 2006-07-17 11:41:10am
- But the fun would have been lost, wouldn't it? ;o) [R] - Sild - 2006-07-17 11:42:36am
- LOL, but I don't think they actually meant to find a rhyme! [R] - julie@work - 2006-07-17 11:42:40am
- Probably not. I still think that line sucks. It isn't funny and it breaks the flow. [R] - Timoteus - 2006-07-17 11:45:52am
- Au contraire, imo! It IS funny and it MAKES the flow! [R] - Sild - 2006-07-17 11:46:41am
- Yeah, it's damned good! "What rhymes with ranking" is perhaps my fave line in the semi? [R] - Pete D - 2006-07-17 11:59:33am
- Interesting ... none of the entries and lines frequently mentioned in here impressed me that much. - Thomas - who will fish me? - 2006-07-17 3:45:39pm
My douze will most probably go elsewhere ... and there's another classic, hilarious ALC entry in that semi which seems to get overlooked, maybe because the song is, mildly speaking, not that popular ;). Or maybe it just lacks the perversion and provocative acting which seems to go down a storm this year, judging from some comments?
No criticism intended (certainly not, you will find out when my votes will be revealed), just some thoughts!
ALC: What does "fit" mean?
Posted by rich on 2006-07-17 4:40:40pm
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It seems like most of the discussions of fit are about how well the alternate lyrics match the beat or melody of the music.
Does anyone take into account the match between the alternate lyrics and the original lyrics?
I haven't decided whether I think that this criterion should matter. This is because some original lyrics are poorly written with odd stresses or meter all over the place that can be improved on. Additionally, some singers have accents or stress certain words in a way that can ruin a perfectly good set of ALs.
How do the rest of you feel about the new lyrics matching the old lyrics/sung words?
- Rich, i think you're bored :-). Missing Carly? - euroUSA - 2006-07-17 4:44:26pm
too much thought about ALC Rich, too much...I personally read the text, download the song, try to sing to it...and make my decision...anything more, it is becoming obsession not fun :-)
- Wrong Rich, Alex :-) [R] - Jonas - 2006-07-17 4:54:04pm
- There's another rich??? [R] - Yair - 2006-07-17 4:55:27pm
- Or maybe not :-) dunno [R] - Jonas - 2006-07-17 4:57:38pm
- lowercase name and excessive posting during alc kinda gave him in :)) [R] - Yair - 2006-07-17 5:02:16pm
- Sherlock Yair says: It's elementary! [R] - [PL] supporting AX-NL!!! still!! - 2006-07-17 5:03:46pm
- yeah, just realised that :-)) [R] - Jonas - 2006-07-17 5:13:11pm
- then rich should introduce himself!! there is Richard-CT, there is Rich Carly's husband, so who are you Rich??? [R] - euroUSA - 2006-07-17 4:57:24pm
- I think it is and "Carly who??" was a joke. Maybe? :) [R] - Harrow - 2006-07-17 4:58:40pm
- Somewhere, in a classroom full of students taking an exam, there's hollow laughter! :-)) [R] - [PL] supporting AX-NL!!! still!! - 2006-07-17 5:00:18pm
- more like "chuckling under my breath" ... this is carly's rich. Or, rich's carly's rich. [R] - rich - 2006-07-17 5:05:14pm
- fit = www.ndrtv.de/grandprix/images/207_p_grossbr_5.jpg [R] - Harrow - 2006-07-17 4:46:14pm
- wrong. fit = http://www.ziavideo.com/images/product/chucknorrispl.jpg [R] - rich - 2006-07-17 4:51:35pm
- i don't think this criterion is possible to measure - Yair - 2006-07-17 5:06:30pm
sometimes a line is effective if it's completely different from the original, sometimes it's most effective if it's very similar, and sometimes if it's not similar for a while, but all of the sudden (at the most ironic point) it fits.
i can't express the index for this in words, it either works for me or it doesn't.
- i thing i read you wrong, so i'll just agree with what jonas said. [R] - Yair - 2006-07-17 5:17:29pm
- Hot or sexy? Well-built? In shape? - Alexander-NL - 2006-07-17 5:10:58pm
Oh in ALC? Sowwie, I slightly drifted off there! :P
It's subjective. I've heard someone say an entry was "hard to sing along to" while I spent DAYS, I mean... *someone* probably spent a lot of time trying to make it perfect and thinking to themselves that they succeeded!! :P
- Well, depends...sometimes an extra syllable or one less is ok :-) - Jonas - 2006-07-17 5:15:28pm
I want to be able to sing the new lyrics, and I want to be able to sing them to the melody of the song, not change the melody according to the new lyrics. Sometimes the melody doesn\'t really change if you add an extra word or remove one, in that case it's no problem, but if the stresses and syllables of a line doesn't really match with the melody, then it doesn't work for me :)
An example. Carola sang "I know just whaaat I feel insiiiii-iiii--iii-iiiide"
That "siii-iii--iii-iiiide" could very well be replaced by three four instead of one, it wouldn't change the melody :) But it can't be replaced by FIVE words ;)
- And btw, it's not out of "principle", but simply because I cannot enjoy a song that I cannot sing with the melody ;-) [R] - Jonas - 2006-07-17 5:27:28pm
- they don't have to match exactly but if there is an obvious stumble repeatedly - it gets 0 :)) [R] - Niall@work! - 2006-07-17 5:24:03pm
- I try to make an effort that my lyrics match the "sound" of the original [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-17 5:35:18pm
- Rich, to heck with you and 'FIT'!!! ;-) [R] - carly in lund - 2006-07-17 7:02:02pm
ALC Semi Final 2 - Votes this semi 12 !!! songs got 0!!
Posted by Niall@work! on 2006-07-17 5:11:19pm
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But there was 1 STAND OUT song!
Overall a more evened out semi quality wise although there were 2 I didn't get at all! :)
- I had the same feeling .. a lot of 'not that good' entries, some okays and ONE clear winner :-) [R] - Ben NL - 2006-07-17 6:15:26pm
- wonder if it is the same one :)) [R] - Niall@work! - 2006-07-17 8:06:00pm
You will pay for this :))
- So that's not you, then? ;)) [R] - Jortsu - 2006-07-17 9:06:22pm
- Who knows - I might be faking! [R] - Yair - 2006-07-17 9:11:38pm
- ;-) [R] - Jortsu - 2006-07-17 9:13:45pm
- you might want to know that i am not involved [R] - corinna may - 2006-07-17 9:10:35pm
- LOL!! [R] - [PL] supporting AX-NL!!! still!! - 2006-07-17 9:12:48pm
OK, to please Harrow's collection of ALC related posts :-)
Posted by Jonas on 2006-07-17 9:14:31pm
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It's quite silly, cause I'll be 90 % wrong, but I'll make a little list of guesses so that at least I have posted *some* predictions once things are gonna be revealed ;)
I think "I want beans" is written by Thomas.
"Everything (The culinary mix)", immediatly makes me think of either Carly or Rich, or both together.
"Herz" could be Yair, but I'm not quite sure about that. So could the Brain-song be.
With "Mr.A" my guess would be...Lobo.
"The Tasty Moussaka" also makes me think it's Carly/Rich.. well, every food-ish song does.
"Pissadansen"... I think that is Alexander.
"Good Result (Big 4 Languages Megamix) " would be cool if it was Jukka, but it's not :) Could maybe be Harrow himself behind this.
"Hard Cock by Viagra" is by someone who really needs to get laid :)
"No Gay Impossible" is by euroUSA.
"Addicted to Glue"...hmm...Martin-DK.
"I Sue"... Roger... or Yair...
BTW, as studying the entries carefully now...it strikes me... Harrow, why have you given some different fonts than the others? trying to affect the outcome? ;)
And I also realised I better stop now, as I obviously have at elast one entry in the two first semis, and it could be easy for you to figure it out. (Maybe I should scroll back up in my message and add a "fake" guess for my own...)
Now, go on and laugh at how wrong I am :)
- LOL....cool review :-) [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-17 9:16:13pm
- I hope your entry is what I think it is ;)) [R] - Yair - 2006-07-17 9:21:15pm
- tsk tsk tsk...make a list yourself ;)) [R] - Jonas - 2006-07-17 9:21:55pm
- Well for starters, I haven't entered... - Harrow - 2006-07-17 9:22:10pm
Secondly, all of semi 1 look the same font to my untrained eyes, they are all meant to be Verdana, but some may accidentally be Comic Sans. No purposeness behind it :)
- Yeah, but some entries are totally in bold, etc... [R] - Jonas - 2006-07-17 9:24:00pm
- oh hold on - Addicted To Glue is blatantly Comic Sans, I'll check em all again... [R] - Harrow - 2006-07-17 9:25:11pm
- yeah... and the bold/italics/regular thingie is also confusing ;-) [R] - Jonas - 2006-07-17 9:25:56pm
- there's no bold. Entries 1 and 2 of semi 2 were wrong font. Italics/Lack of are as submitted [R] - Harrow - 2006-07-17 9:29:36pm
- Oh, ok. :-) [R] - Jonas - 2006-07-17 9:30:17pm
- I have the strong feeling that "I Sue" is written by... - Jortsu - 2006-07-17 9:26:35pm
Thomas (maybe he'll kill me for this, LOL).
I also thought "No Gay Impossible" was written by Alex. My guess about "Hertz" is Jeremy and I really don't think "Mr. A" is written by Lobo.
Anyway, I'm crap at guessing ALC's, I'm still not very much used to each other's styles ;)
- How cool that you thought of me - Alexander-NL - 2006-07-17 9:43:00pm
and that you connected me to that entry! :o)
I thought "Hard cock of Viagra" might be javi and "No gay impossible" Alex, but those are both quite obvious, so they might be exactly switched. :o))
I would *love* for "I Sue" to be Thomas. It'd be perfect. :o))
- I think Frank wrote Llama, and Alexander wrote McCauls or Promotours [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-17 9:44:04pm
- I have Frank for Je t'adore (Rendez-vous) :-) [R] - [PL] supporting AX-NL!!! still!! - 2006-07-17 9:45:33pm
- No way...it's too much of an earthquake for my delicate system if he did :-) [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-17 9:47:23pm
- I doubt that too. [R] - Alexander-NL - 2006-07-17 9:54:55pm
- Aviad, that's him, I think :-) [R] - Jonas - 2006-07-17 10:04:27pm
- My guess, too, Jonas :) [R] - carly in lund - 2006-07-17 10:11:02pm
- And before you make more revealling guesses - I just sent my votes :)) [R] - Yair - 2006-07-17 9:52:19pm
- As did I...these predictions are scaring me (but some are soooooooo far off) :-) [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-17 9:59:18pm
- I'm also predicting that I am getting a 12 from Yair in at elast one of the semis ;-)) [R] - Jonas - 2006-07-17 10:18:29pm
- Wow...quite brazen [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-17 10:30:30pm
- My thoughts exactly! [R] - Richard_CT - 2006-07-17 10:32:28pm
- I predict to fail to receive a douze from any of you! :P [R] - Alexander-NL - 2006-07-17 11:14:09pm
- hehe....some of my guesses... - javi - 2006-07-18 5:54:55am
And LOL@some of what you guys said, by the way...
" Hertz" is most likely written by Jeremy
"I sue" sounds a lot like Thomas...
" Really really Gay"...I don't know...could this be Jeremy again??? Probably not...This will go straight into the rofl section...lol...
" I'm no stickler"...Jonas?
" Pissadansen"...Jonas again?
"On again...Off again"...Paul?
" If we all pay for ticket" probably Marianne...
" Torero"...Luke, if he is in...
" No gay Impossible"...I don't think it was written by either Lobo, Jonas or Alex...
" The tasty moussaka"...Orionas?
" Hard Cock.." EuroUsa? :)))
" We can't live w/o neighbours" Yair, even though he's denying it...
And now laugh, laugh...:))))) I know I am....
There's someone in this ALC who's trying to confuse me...
Posted by Nick D. on 2006-07-17 9:21:55pm
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...how am I supposed to judge the comedy value of something that isn't even *supposed* to be funny? It's like trying to compare, I don't know, LT United with Hari Mata Hari or something!
Whoever you are, you've totally ruined my marking system and I hate you.
(not really! :-) )
- I think "No gay impossible" was written by Jonas. - LoboinMadrid - 2006-07-18 2:32:25am
- Have you been at work? :) [R] - Harrow - 2006-07-18 2:40:52am
- Fine don't talk to me! I'm going to bed now, sorry Lota :) [R] - Harrow - 2006-07-18 2:44:47am
- And I don't think Jonas wrote it...or you...or Alex...so, who did???? :)) [R] - javi - 2006-07-18 5:26:43am
- You did? :-) [R] - Jonas - 2006-07-18 2:20:16pm
- tssssssss :-) [R] - Jonas - 2006-07-18 2:20:10pm
The ALC thread last night was totally unfair to those who want to stay anonymous...
Posted by Yair @work on 2006-07-18 9:45:49am
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but i admit, it was really fun ;))
- Oh my God ... just checked - for some reason I am glad I was not around ;) [R] - Thomas ... No Sex! No Sports! - 2006-07-18 11:11:35am
- Won't you make any guesses yourself? It's fun! [R] - orionas - 2006-07-18 11:24:59am
- Not now ... busy! ;) [R] - Thomas ... No Sex! No Sports! - 2006-07-18 11:50:48am
- Voting for the ALC? :-))) [R] - orionas - 2006-07-18 11:53:48am
So, do you have top 10 od ALC Semi 2?
Posted by Jelena on 2006-07-18 1:36:10pm
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I do, now i just have to get the points right :)))))
- Yup, voted yesterday :-) [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-18 1:38:19pm
- Did you vote in french? :-) [R] - [PL] supporting AX-NL!!! still!! - 2006-07-18 1:42:46pm
- In NY :-) [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-18 1:45:22pm
- I do but really only a top 2 really!! the rest I can take or leave [R] - Niall@work! - 2006-07-18 1:48:05pm
- I have a top2 and probably will have a top3 when i re-read them...But i'm sure i'll find a top10 to vote [R] - orionas - 2006-07-18 1:55:30pm
- Yeps, a very clear douze, 5 or 6 really good ones, and a few others pretty good. Voted yesterday! [R] - Sild - 2006-07-18 1:53:29pm
- I think there's a clear runaway winner in this semi, the other five spots are difficult to predict. [R] - Yair @work - 2006-07-18 2:14:20pm
- Hmm, wonder if you're having the same one in mind as I do - I seem to disagree with most of you on these entries ;o) [R] - Sild - 2006-07-18 2:15:38pm
- Me too. If the "runaway winner" is the one I think people mean, it certainly isn't my douze ;) [R] - Jortsu - 2006-07-18 2:22:39pm
- Hmmm...I disagree, I think there are about 10 who could make it, and 5 or so who could win [R] - Pete D - 2006-07-18 2:21:39pm
- Voted yesterday also :) [R] - Jortsu - 2006-07-18 1:55:17pm
- My philosophy is "vote early, vote often" [R] - Pete D - 2006-07-18 2:32:39pm
New voting strategy for ALC from the NY jury
Posted by Jeremy on 2006-07-18 2:18:56pm
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I've had so much fun learning new ESC songs I've never heard before through some of the ALC entries, so they automatically get an edge in point consideration, even if the lyrics are problematic (real stinkers will get dq'd of course).
So those who wrote lyrics to old/obscure songs that barely get mention anymore - bravo, thanks and me will reward thee. This policy will carry through to Semi 3 and the final.
:-)
- Shame you didn't try that one last year!! ;-) [R] - Pete D - 2006-07-18 2:23:26pm
- Hence "new" :-) [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-18 2:24:07pm
When you decide to start writing an ALC entry...
Posted by orionas on 2006-07-18 2:36:14pm
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do you start with songs you like, songs you don't like or songs that would be easy to write?
- This year I tried go be a bit less mainstream for the most part (song choice, lyrics, theme)... [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-18 2:42:16pm
- To get more votes or to be different and not just another ALC writer? [R] - orionas - 2006-07-18 2:45:03pm
- songs I think I can make a good hand at or suit my writing style :)) [R] - Niall@work! - 2006-07-18 2:46:33pm
- I usually just have a bit of an idea that fits in with a song, whether I like it or not. That idea is always ingenious.. - Luke - 2006-07-18 2:56:07pm
...and I am invariably unable to turn it into a lyric for a whole song. A bit of genius (if a say so myself!) and a whole lot of total crap does not a great alc lyric make! I'm gratified to see that I am not the only person to suffer from this, but I don't submit my Frankenstein lyrics into the contest! This year I had a simple idea that for once would stretch to an entire lyric, but the downside is that it is far from being genius! :-)))
- *claps* [R] - rich - 2006-07-18 5:20:46pm
Question for Harrow - Richard_CT - 2006-07-18 5:14:08pm
- I'm not Harrow (thank God!), but yes, there will be no indication of the qualifiers' positions or scores. [R] - Yair - 2006-07-18 5:32:02pm
- Good! No point in spilling the beans too soon, eh? [R] - Richard_CT - 2006-07-18 5:41:11pm
- I have top 10 in 2nd semi, phew...that was easy. have sure 12 pointer, the rest will be distributed later tonight. - euroUSA - 2006-07-18 6:18:00pm
- Only my nr 5 , 8 and 10 was from the F and 1-4 , 6-7 and 9 from the SF :) [R] - pruzze - 2006-07-18 6:29:45pm
- LOL. Pruzze you're the King of this MB!!! [R] - euroUSA - 2006-07-18 6:35:50pm
- *extremely confused* [R] - LoboinMadrid - 2006-07-18 6:39:04pm
Getting my votes for semi 2 ready ... now!
Posted by Thomas No Sex! No Sports! on 2006-07-18 7:31:00pm
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Tough fight for my douze between one entry which has never been mentioned and another one which seems extremely polarizing and has been really butchered by some - well, all I can say is, ALC is not just about being diligent and industrious, it's also about having a great idea.
And the new trend to reward entries which help to rediscover forgotten or more obscure ESC songs - don't count me in.
If there is a great lyric to an 06 song with chiara-angel warning, I will wholeheartedly shower it with points, if an obscure song comes with dull lyrics, no way.
- Well, my douze hasn't been mentioned in here either ;) [R] - Jortsu - 2006-07-18 7:35:53pm
- My douze is a great idea ;)) [R] - Yair - 2006-07-18 7:43:10pm
- I wonder if it's the same one as I voted for :) [R] - Niall@work! - 2006-07-18 7:56:12pm
- I gave my 12 to a not so obvious one, but indeed a good entry :-) [R] - Jonas - 2006-07-18 8:02:16pm
To whoever wrote Generacija 1642....
Posted by Richard_CT on 2006-07-18 8:14:39pm
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... I applaud you for reminding me of one of my favourites of '74, which I hadn't heard in 30 years!
- Generacija was my Nr 1 ESC-74 [R] - pruzze - 2006-07-18 8:25:29pm
- I just want to know the significance of "1642" huh? [R] - anon - 2006-07-18 8:39:26pm
- It's a story about Liliane St. Pierre, Perbjo's 11 and simple mathematics :-) [R] - [PL] supporting AX-NL!!! still!! - 2006-07-18 9:40:38pm
Do you think that our comments here about ALC are representative for the possible outcome?
Posted by orionas on 2006-07-18 8:45:22pm
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Are the songs that we consider favorites going to do well? There are about 45 participants and many others that didn't participate and going to vote! Are there going to be any surprises?
- Children, I'm done ... - Thomas ... No Sex! No Sports! - 2006-07-18 9:51:45pm
... my 12 will definitely go the provocative route, but my 10 will be totally mainstream ;).
Tight race on the next ranks, entries are difficult to compare.
One is silly, but works wonders when "performed" with the original song.
One is both beautiful and wise, but almost destroys itself through 2 totally inappropriate lines :(((
One is a great concept, but rather mis-matching in terms of lyrics / melody.
One is wild, uninhibited fun - almost too much for its own good.
One has a fabulous intro evoking an imagery to crave for but some flaws in between.
One is clever and weird, but not always up to what it initially promises.
The remaining points for something completely tasteless and rude, but I can't help it. And for something totally absurd - I'm not even sure it was meant to be, but so what ;)
- Is this for semi2 or overall? [R] - [PL] supporting AX-NL!!! still!! - 2006-07-18 9:56:54pm
- Semi 2! [R] - Thomas ... No Sex! No Sports! - 2006-07-18 10:27:58pm
- Hahahaha...love that review [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-18 10:06:04pm
- I am trying to match the comments with the songs and I am completely lost!! :) [R] - Niall@work! - 2006-07-19 12:31:30pm
With my votes about to be sent, here my 2 pennies on yesterday's comment ...
Posted by Thomas No Sex! No Sports! on 2006-07-18 10:24:40pm
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So "Hertz" is attributed to a lot of "big names" - it's a fun one to speculate. Imho it's 100 % Frank school, but there are some bits & pieces in there which make me believe it comes from a talented pupil and not from the master himself. Wouldn't rule it out, though.
Even though it might be too obvious, I expect Jeremy behind one of the "Hard Rock Hallelujahs" - and certainly not behind the one from semi 2 ;)
As for Yair, he is difficult to spot so far - "Llama" is the closest, but I'm not 100 % convinced. He's most certainly not behind "Mmmm - Brain!" - hey, this guy is out there to have 3 songs in the final! And if he has written "Neighbours", I will go blind within a second ...
"Moja Geracija" would have been another Yair guess, but ... no. He would have done some lines differently, I'm sure.
"Total Plagiat" could be Geert (and not just due to the choice of the song).
A lot of speculation about Carly / Rich - no, I don't think they are behind "Everything (The culinary mix)" as it is more or less a rip off what they had done better. I expect them (and especially Carly) to be behind a different type of food song which takes the category to the next level. That one's got "What Kind Of Ban" quality, so I would not rule Yair out completely.
"No Gay Impossible" - another popular one to guess and no, I don't expect Alex to be behind it (he could have "Really Really Gay" in there, it's got that "parading" feel written all over it". Somehow I could imagine Alexander behind it (as he is more or less the only young and cute one not mentioned), but then again - he WOULD have mentioned himself ;)
Jonas should be easy to spot due to his unique style, but I'm not sure either. Could be "Stickler", could be "Pissadansen" (more so than Alexander - I hope he is not behind "Promotour" though, I guess "Pasema" might be another option ;).
Why not Marianne behind "Pissadansen", by the way? It's got that subdued charm...
Other guesses: I would not be surprised if "Sex In A Van" came from Aviad.
"A Song On Speed" might be Stefan (even though he had no time to participate) fishing for my douze. Did it work? Hell, we just exchanged nil points at BFC!
"Je t'adore" - someone mentioned Frank and I would not rule that out completely. It is most definitely a person I worship and adore ;)
"Brokeback Twist" is a difficult one - I thought of Niall, he is a novice and his style is difficult to judge. But he loves the movie at least as much as I do, and I don't think the author does.
So a lot of you think I've written "I Sue"? You really believe I would spend my time with such a rotten song? You do?
Well, you might be right ... but on the other hand my generosity to those who are fishing for my douze is well known. Just a thought ;)
Funnily enough another entry I would have expected to be strongly associated with me was not mentioned at all - at least not in context with my name ;). But I was more than pleased with the name it got linked to ...
- Grand! I'm not sure if you spotted any right, but it sure was a fun read! :-)) [R] - [PL] supporting AX-NL!!! still!! - 2006-07-18 10:33:48pm
- Oh, I'm not sure either ... and I don't want to be! [R] - Thomas ... No Sex! No Sports! - 2006-07-18 10:34:47pm
- Great review, Thomas! :))) [R] - Jortsu - 2006-07-18 10:35:25pm
- LOL.....fabulous :-) [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-18 10:40:15pm
- yummy commentary - rich - 2006-07-18 11:27:01pm
However, a couple of comments (not hints or spoilers)
1) Both Pie and Bagel from '05 were Carly/Rich *collaborations* -- are there any Carly/Rich collaborations this year? Who knows.
2) There was also this little thing called Such Attire that didn't do so poorly last year. And it wasn't about food ;) Honestly, there's more to us than food. For instance, we like beer. And cheese. And--oh god!!
3) Both Carly and I had opportunities to be direct finalists. So who's to say either of us has entries in the semis?
Food for thought :P
- but Thomas would I be that obvious?? :)) [R] - Niall@work! - 2006-07-19 12:55:32pm
- Harrow, just sent my votes, found it relatively easy as there were sooooo many bad ones! - julie@work - 2006-07-19 9:22:28am
- So another one that thinks Semi 1 was better... [R] - orionas - 2006-07-19 9:23:38am
- Or another one that didn't cherish the quality that is Sense A Two (!) [R] - [PL] supporting AX-NL!!! still!! - 2006-07-19 9:27:23am
- I might have voted for it - you never know ;) [R] - julie@work - 2006-07-19 9:28:33am
- :-) [R] - [PL] supporting AX-NL!!! still!! - 2006-07-19 9:36:42am
Fab ALC Semi II quotes
Posted by Jeremy on 2006-07-19 8:26:29pm
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And as a team they'll join the game
Someone for the Belgians to blame
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But he had a secret with Ol' Gay Paul:
Didn't fancy Fanny, or fannies at all...
Danny thrown off his horse.
"I've chipped a nail!" she heard him wail,
She wanted a divorce.
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My hair is dyed
And I look really scared
Done 6 rehearsals but I’m far from prepared
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Oh dear llama, out in the pasture
Lookin’ so cool, clearly the paddock’s master
I feel something, like sent from above
You’ve got me thinking, ‘bout cross-species love
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Don't want you to make the viewers faint
Don't need you to turn us all insane
You should know you ain't no f*cking stars and you're this far
only cos the Irish are quite bizarre
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No new countries, no Baltic-fest
No Moscow, no Bucharest!
They brought us hatred,
And what was sacred
They took to Tallin, to Kiev
What's next? Yerevan?!?!
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Just like Leandros can no longer sing
I'm feeling that way some times
- They're all great, though not necessarily the strongest lines in their songs IMO :) [R] - Yair - 2006-07-19 9:28:36pm
Not easy (again!) to make up one's mind... But I found a Top 10...
28 songs is quite a lot isn'tit?
Thanks goodness we have an entire week to listen/read...:-)
- I think i'm going to vote today (not sure though...) [R] - orionas - 2006-07-20 3:56:26pm
- No, won't be before tomorrow either, I think. [R] - Frank - 2006-07-20 3:57:50pm
- You wait till the last moment ? [R] - kURt B - 2006-07-20 4:02:15pm
- 27 participants have, 18 have yet to. :) [R] - Harrow - 2006-07-20 4:00:29pm
- No [R] - RogerF - 2006-07-20 4:02:04pm
- I *think* I have, although I can't really remember. lol. Have I, Harrow? [R] - Jonas - 2006-07-20 4:03:56pm
- Yes! You gave 12 to - Harrow - 2006-07-20 4:04:57pm
your favourite :)
- Are you sure I did? ;-) [R] - Jonas - 2006-07-20 4:05:22pm
- Well, any suspicions of cheating will be treated very severely :) [R] - Harrow - 2006-07-20 4:06:31pm
- Yes, on Tuesday... - Nick D. - 2006-07-20 4:59:41pm
...skimmed them on the first night, then went back and gave everything a proper listening with MP3s, and then gave my douze to something I liked.
I now think that my 5 pointer is better than my 6 pointer, but, well, the die is cast... :)
About to send my ALC votes tonight, a bit dissapointed with an entry..
Posted by angelos on 2006-07-20 6:23:07pm
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that i actually like it's lyrics (and idea), but in no way fit with the melody or the syllables :(
- I think we all know which one you're talking about ;) [R] - Yair - 2006-07-20 6:24:14pm
- not that one surely!! :) [R] - Niall@work! - 2006-07-20 6:34:07pm
- Quite a few of those unfortunately, and I even rewarded a few for lack of anything better :-( [R] - Jeremy - 2006-07-20 6:26:59pm
- now sent :)) [R] - angelos - 2006-07-20 6:48:29pm
As it is very quiet on the MB now, some of my ALC semi remarks...
Posted by [PL] supporting AX-NL!!!! on 2006-07-20 11:47:15pm
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A lot of fits, but also a lot of repetition.
And because of the repetition the originality wears a bit off. Still there are worse entries in this semi...
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Aaaah... Well, gimmicky. But it fits, it's original and daring.
Downside (though not visible here in the lyrics) is the repetition :-)
But that's a flaw that was already there in the original :-)
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The effort alone in daring to tackle this should be rewarded. A bit surreal, fun.
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Somehow this is a bit last year's ALC. Still harmless, cheeky fun. The writer radiates self-confidence and I can appreciate this somehow.
There are a lot of simillies (Alternative lyrics who sound similar to the original lyric, whatever the language may be). So extra points for that.
For me the best one so far.
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Very little alternative in this lyric.
The writer just "stuck" to most of the original lyrics, and instead just changed some words and sentences.
Now one could argue that it's better to "stick" with something good, than exchange it for something less striking. However, this is what the contest is about: a little hurdle, a bit difficult, but no-one is obliged to pick this particular song.
Points are solely for originality of the subject.
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Because of the choice of the song this gets a very different dimension. It adds to the atmosphere it's creating through the lyrics.
21!! And some useless statistics
Posted by Frank on 2006-07-22 1:02:01am
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There were 15 songs from 2006,
two songs from 2005, 2002 and 2000
and one song from 2003, 1996, 1994, 1983, 1982, 1975 and 1974 each.
Adjusting my final ALC Semi 2 ranking in a hangover it struck me: what happened to 'less is more'?
Posted by Timoteus on 2006-07-22 7:48:48am
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There are surprisingly many texts in this semi which are basically well written and have an idea too but the structure of the original version is completely omitted. Why change the chorus (and/or the bridge) to something completely different every time it comes along? Hits aren't done that way. A little repetition isn't something to be avoided, quite the opposite, actually. Constantly changing lyrics lack coherence and catchiness.
I had to check last year's top 10 to remind myself if there was something similar there but nope, not really. "Such Attire" changed the chorus but kept the first half of it the same all the way through. "Ruslana" had some changes too as well as "Pie" due to the plot but the texts were still coherent. "My Unbearable Scream" is an exception but it's built differently and cleverly. The verses build the plot, the choruses are a list of actions (excl. the last one after the scream).
Ah, well, just had to moan about something. :o) It's just that when a song that *really* sucks is covered by a text less coherent than the original, it's unbearable, even more so in a hangover. I had a more or less fixed top 6 already and about eight songs battling for the last four scoring positions. I think they will go to the least irritating texts now.
BTW, at least one text with little repetition covering a song that sucks will get at least a decent amount of points from me so don't you think you can deduce too much about my votes. :-P
- Well... - javi - 2006-07-22 8:56:46am
I'm hungover too, so I'll agree with you...to a certain extent. What you said may be true, unless that repetition gets really annoying. And I for one don't care much if the original song sucks ( if that's what you meant) if the AL are well written...
And you haven't voted yet? Gee, you people take your time, eh? :))
- I don't really agree :-) I like it when the whole song becomes like a "story"... - Jonas - 2006-07-22 9:53:02am
Normally repetition is good (to a certain extent) but in ALC it sometimes works better not to repeat too many times. Cause when you've read the same chorus twice, reading it again might not be as hilarious as it was the first time... while songs that have surprises and new things even towards the end makes me wanna keep reading/singing along uintil the song is over :)
But it's very different from song to song. Sometimes sticking to the same chorus is better, sometimes not.
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